Typical US street: $1,599–$1,799. Coffeedant overall: 8.1 / 10 • 11 specialties • P.E.P. + Professional Aroma Grinder
Jura E6
Cappuccino-first, black-coffee focused super-automatic pairing Jura’s Professional Aroma Grinder with P.E.P. extraction and guided cleaning. Built for people who live on espresso, coffee, and a daily cappuccino—without chasing latte-art microfoam.
Overview
Jura E6 leans into espresso, long coffee, and cappuccino with a consistent grinder, P.E.P. extraction, and automatic hygiene. Controls are friendly, cleaning is guided, and the milk system favors easy cappuccinos over latte-art microfoam. Strong fit if you want push-button coffee with minimal tinkering.
Pros
- Professional Aroma Grinder keeps shots consistent
- P.E.P. maintains structure on short extractions
- Simple hard-key UI; easy for the whole household
- TÜV-certified cleaning with CLEARYL Smart+ filter
- Front-fill tank, adjustable spouts, compact footprint
Cons
- No one-touch flat white or latte macchiato presets
- Milk texture fixed by frother; not barista-style microfoam
- App control typically needs the Wi-Fi Connect add-on
- Rinse cycles use more water; tray fills quickly
- Cleaning consumables add to ownership cost
Features & Specs
- Grinder: Professional Aroma Grinder (conical steel)
- Extraction: P.E.P. pulse extraction • brew unit 5–16 g
- Menu: 11 specialties incl. Espresso, 2× Espresso, Coffee, 2× Coffee, Caffè Barista, Lungo Barista, Espresso macchiato, Cappuccino, Cappuccino Extra Shot, Portion of milk foam, Hot water
- Controls: 2.8" color display + six hard keys
- Adjustability: 10 strength levels • 3 temp levels per drink
- Milk system: HP1 Easy Cappuccino with external tube
- Capacities: 1.9 L tank • 280 g hopper • ~16-puck bin
- Water care: CLEARYL Smart+ with auto filter detection
- Maintenance: integrated rinse/clean/descale programs (TÜV)
- Connectivity: J.O.E. app ready via Wi-Fi Connect (optional)
Day-one setup & dialing
- Water & filter: test hardness, install CLEARYL Smart+, prime.
- Rinse & heat: run startup rinses; warm cups/spouts.
- Baseline: strength 6/10, temp mid, espresso volume ~30–35 ml.
- Grind tweak: adjust small steps toward finer/coarser to taste (during grinding only, per manual).
- Milk: connect tube to your jug or Jura Cool Control; purge after use.
FAQs
- Does it do flat white/latte macchiato?
- No one-touch presets for those on E6. It focuses on cappuccino and black-coffee drinks.
- Is the brew group removable?
- No—Jura uses guided cleaning cycles instead. Follow prompts and use Jura tablets.
- Do I need the app?
- Not required. The J.O.E. app works if you add Jura’s Wi-Fi Connect accessory.
- How often to descale?
- Intervals extend substantially with CLEARYL Smart+ installed; the machine will prompt when needed.
Maintenance & gotchas
Who it’s for / who should avoid
Pricing notes
- USA street: usually $1,599–$1,799 depending on promos/color.
- Direct reference: recent direct price $1,799 (down from $1,899).
- Strong value if your menu is espresso/coffee/cappuccino and you want Jura’s maintenance story.
The Jura E6 is the middle child in Jura’s lineup, built for people who drink mostly black coffee and a daily cappuccino. It grinds fresh, pulls consistent short shots, and makes foam at the push of a button. You get Jura’s Professional Aroma Grinder, P.E.P. pulse extraction, a 2.8-inch color display with hard keys, app control via Wi-Fi, and automated cleaning.
You do not get a barista’s milk menu. There is no one-touch flat white or latte macchiato, and milk texture is set by the frother rather than the user. If you want the widest drink list, step up to the E8.
If your routine is espresso, coffee, and cappuccino, the E6 nails the brief with less cost and less clutter.
At a glance: core specs
- Grinder: Professional Aroma Grinder, conical steel.
- Extraction: Pulse Extraction Process, variable brew unit 5–16 g.
- Drinks: 11 specialties including Espresso, 2× Espresso, Coffee, 2× Coffee, Caffè Barista, Lungo Barista, Espresso macchiato, Cappuccino, Cappuccino Extra Shot, Portion of milk foam, Hot water.
- Controls: 2.8 inch color display with six buttons. 10 strength levels, 3 temp levels.
- Milk: Easy Cappuccino function with HP1 milk system, height-adjustable milk spout 65–111 mm.
- App: Compatible with J.O.E., Wi-Fi connection supported, Wi-Fi Connect accessory commonly sold separately by retailers.
- Water tank: 1.9 L. Bean hopper: 280 g. Grounds bin: 16 pucks. Spout height range: 65–111 mm. Dimensions W×H×D: 28 × 35.1 × 44.6 cm. Weight: 9.1 kg. Made in Portugal.
- Filtration and hygiene: CLEARYL Smart+ with automatic filter detection. TÜV-certified hygiene. Integrated rinse, clean, and descale programs.
- Typical US street price: 1,599 to 1,799 USD depending on color and promos. UK street price during seasonal sales often 600–900 GBP.
Build and design
Jura’s industrial design is minimal and practical. The E6 chassis keeps the lines simple, hides fingerprints reasonably well on the plastics, and uses chrome accents only where it helps clarity around the spouts and cup platform. What matters is access and rigidity. The front-fill 1.9 L water tank slides out cleanly. The 280 g bean hopper sits under a fitted lid with a grind adjustment collar under a small cover. Fit is tight, panels don’t creak, and the unit sits solidly on the counter at 9.1 kg. Spouts adjust from 65 to 111 mm, which covers demitasse through typical cappuccino mugs without a balancing act.
Inside, Jura uses a sealed brew unit. You cannot remove and rinse it like some competitors, which is intentional. The machine relies on detergent cycles and hot rinses to maintain cleanliness, and Jura’s hygiene system is TÜV-certified. If you maintain it as prompted, it stays reliable and clean. Skip the cycles, and any super-auto will eventually complain.
The milk path is external. Jura supplies a silicone milk tube that press-fits to the HP1 spout. You drop the other end into your own container or Jura’s Cool Control fridge if you want a neater setup. It is not a built-in carafe system, which keeps the front clean but means you manage your own milk vessel. Several retailers list the tube and connectors in the box.
Controls and display
The E6’s interface is the right kind of basic. Six physical buttons flank a 2.8-inch color display. The display is not touch. You select drinks with the buttons, then adjust strength, volume, temperature, and milk quantity in software. You get 10 strength steps, three temperature steps, and per-drink volume control for both coffee and milk foam. For home users this is enough granularity to set permanent profiles per beverage and stop fiddling.
App control is available through Jura’s J.O.E. app. The current E6 supports Wi-Fi connection to your home network. In practice many regions sell E6 units that require the separate Wi-Fi Connect accessory to enable the app. Plan on buying that dongle if remote control and favorites matter to you.
Workflow
Morning routine
Hit the power button and the E6 runs a rinse. Load beans, check the tank, place a cup, and press Espresso, Coffee, or Cappuccino. For double drinks, press twice quickly for the 2× variants. That is the rhythm Jura designs for, and it moves. The 5–16 g variable brew unit pairs with P.E.P. to pulse water through the puck. The goal is higher extraction clarity in short shots without over-diluting. The grinder is quick and holds settings across back-to-back drinks well.
Milk drinks
The E6 is a cappuccino-first machine. Tap Cappuccino and it dispenses foam, then espresso. There is also a stand-alone “Portion of milk foam,” which you can use to build a latte-style drink by adding espresso manually. There is no one-touch latte macchiato or flat white preset. If you want those, the E8 is the correct upsell with 17 specialties and a more advanced milk program.
App usage
Once you add Wi-Fi Connect and pair J.O.E., you can trigger drinks from the couch, create favorites, and adjust settings. The app also surfaces maintenance prompts. Jura documents compatibility across Smart Connect and Wi-Fi Connect. For E6 models identified as “EC” or “NAC” variants, retailers and Jura’s own accessory page point to Wi-Fi Connect as the add-on.
Espresso performance
Let’s set expectations. Super-automatic machines grind inside the housing, tamp automatically, and brew through a compact group. The point is repeatability, not barista tinkering. Within that frame, the E6’s espresso is clean and consistent.
The Professional Aroma Grinder claims more consistent particle size and a roughly 12% aroma gain over prior Jura grinders. In the cup that translates to a little more perceived strength at the same gram setting. Pair that with P.E.P. and you get short shots that avoid the thin, hollow taste common to older super-autos. Do not expect manual-machine body. Do expect clear bitterness management and reliable crema.
Brew flexibility is wide enough. With 10 strength steps and 3 temperature steps plus per-drink volume, you can dial espresso from a short 25–30 ml style through a more crowd-friendly 40 ml. For long coffee, use Coffee or the Barista profiles. Lungo Barista and Caffè Barista are there so you can get a longer cup with better flavor balance than simply running more water through an espresso.
Whole Latte Love notes the current E6 update includes Jura’s “3D brewing” and the eighth-generation brew unit. That tracks with the extraction behavior we see in the cup: even flow, stable crema, and fewer edge channeling artifacts. The spec is retailer-sourced rather than listed on Jura’s E6 page, but the behavior aligns.
Double shots and consistency
The 2× functions are useful. The machine grinds twice for two singles rather than brewing one long pull. That keeps flavor on track. The 5–16 g dose range gives the E6 enough headroom to make proper doubles back-to-back without choking. If you need three or four in a row, the grinder heat stays manageable for home usage thanks to the machine’s pacing and purge logic.
Milk steaming and foam quality
Jura’s milk philosophy favors convenience and cleanliness. The E6’s Easy Cappuccino frother makes dry, fine-bubbled foam that lands in the cappuccino zone. It is soft and stable. It is not silky, pourable microfoam for latte art. There is no fine manual control during the pour, and texture is mostly fixed by the frother design rather than user technique. As long as your goal is a classic cappuccino or a “latte-style” drink built from the Milk Foam portion plus espresso, the results are pleasant. If you want flat white density and temperature nuance at one touch, look at the E8.
From a temperature and mouthfeel standpoint, the system is set up to protect milk quality and hygiene. The HP1 path is short. When paired with Jura’s cleaning tabs, the frother stays clear of dried proteins that ruin texture. That combination is a big part of why Jura’s milk drinks taste consistent from day to day even if you are not a tinkerer.
Maintenance and reliability
This is where Jura earns its keep. The E6 automates as much of the dirty work as a consumer machine can. With a CLEARYL Smart+ filter installed, the machine monitors filter status via RFID and handles line rinses and descaling prompts automatically. You get a guided interface for cleaning, a monitored drip tray, and maintenance reminders. Hygiene is TÜV-certified when you use Jura products and follow the prompts.
Daily best practice is simple:
- Empty the grounds bin and drip tray when prompted.
- Run the milk system rinse after the last milk drink of the day and perform the “clean milk system” cycle with Jura’s mini-tabs as directed. That cycle removes fats and proteins that otherwise harden in the frother.
Because the brew unit is sealed, you do not remove and scrub a group. The detergent cycle does the heavy lifting and keeps internals clean if you run it on schedule. This design has fewer user error points and holds temperature better. The trade-off is trusting the software to nag you and using Jura’s consumables.
Real-world usability
Noise and speed
The Professional Aroma Grinder is quick and relatively quiet for a conical steel set. It is not silent. The pulsed extraction has a distinct cadence that becomes background noise once you stop noticing it. From button press to cup, espresso timing is fast for a super-auto and long coffees are paced. Families can run two coffees back-to-back with the 2× Coffee option without slowing the morning.
Water and waste
All modern Juras rinse at startup and shutdown. That builds water use into your routine and it keeps lines clean. The 1.9 L tank is a good size for a couple making a handful of drinks per day. The drip tray fills faster than you think because of those rinses, but the monitored tray catches you before an overflow.
App and connectivity
The J.O.E. app is straightforward. Save favorites and push them to the machine. The Wi-Fi link can also talk to Jura’s Cool Control milk fridge so the machine knows when milk is low. Plan the accessory into your budget.
Taste tuning
Start with medium strength, medium temperature, and default volumes, then adjust:
- Espresso: bump strength two steps higher than you think you want. Use 30–35 ml volume for better body.
- Coffee: use Caffè Barista or Lungo Barista for longer cups that preserve clarity, rather than stretching an espresso too far.
- Cappuccino: leave milk volume as set and adjust coffee strength first. If your foam feels too airy, switch milk to a higher fat content or use a chilled milk container for slightly tighter bubbles.
These are practical moves within the E6’s design limits. The machine’s grinder and P.E.P. system reward small changes to strength and volume more than constant grind fiddling.
Competitors and cross-shopping
Jura E8
If you want a full café menu with one-touch milk drinks beyond cappuccino, the Jura E8 is the move. It adds a larger display, a richer beverage list with 17 specialties including flat white and latte macchiato, and a more advanced milk system. It costs more, but the convenience step is real. If you rarely drink milk or only need cappuccino, the E6’s simpler system is easier to live with and cheaper to maintain.
Philips 5400 LatteGo and De’Longhi alternatives
Philips’ LatteGo series puts a dishwasher-safe carafe on the front and offers a friendlier milk experience for latte drinkers. De’Longhi’s better super-autos lean into value and carafes too. What you trade away is Jura’s extraction recipe, grinder quality, and the long-term maintenance polish of the platform. If a daily flat white is non-negotiable, compare pricing carefully against a discounted E8 rather than forcing the E6 to be something it is not.
Older Jura E6 variants
Jura has iterated the E6 several times. The current “EC/NAC” spec lists 11 specialties and the Professional Aroma Grinder, with 2022 as the model year marker. If you are buying used, confirm the drink list and grinder generation. A retailer listing with “3D brewing” and the updated brew unit indicates the newest spec.
Pricing and value
Jura pricing moves with color and channel. In the United States, the E6 often posts at 1,799 USD and dips to around 1,599 USD during promos. In the UK it swings widely based on retailer and season, often landing in the 600–900 GBP band for promotions, with list prices higher. Those deltas are why E6 is a good buy when discounted, a harder sell at full retail.
Benchmarks and measured features
- Brew dose envelope: 5–16 g.
- Strength steps: 10. Temperature steps: 3.
- Water tank: 1.9 L. Bean capacity: 280 g. Grounds bin: 16 pucks.
- Spout height: 65–111 mm.
- Electrical: 1450 W, 120 V in North America, 230 V in EU.
- Dimensions: 28 × 35.1 × 44.6 cm.
- Country of manufacture: Portugal.
These numbers are not marketing fluff. They’re the guardrails for how the E6 behaves. The dose range explains why 2× Espresso tastes better than one stretched lungo. The 10 strength steps give you meaningful changes without slipping into placebo territory. The geometry and heater specifications show why it is a fast morning machine rather than a café workhorse.
Strengths, limits, and where it fits
Strengths
- Repeatable espresso and long coffee with clean extraction and minimal bitterness.
- Push-button cappuccino that tastes right and arrives hot.
- Simple interface that anyone in the house can use.
- Automated, guided maintenance that keeps internals clean.
- Solid build and clean footprint.
Limits
- No one-touch latte macchiato or flat white.
- Milk texture is fixed by the frother, not user technique.
- App control usually requires a paid Wi-Fi dongle add-on.
- Rinse cycles fill trays fast, and the machine prefers Jura consumables for cleaning.
Who it suits
- Cappuccino everyday, latte on weekends people.
- Households that want fresh-ground coffee and short shots without learning barista workflows.
- Buyers who value smart maintenance and a clean countertop over a huge recipe list.
Scoring
- Build quality: 8.5/10
- Grinder quality: 8/10
- Espresso quality: 7.5/10
- Long coffee quality: 8/10
- Milk drinks quality: 7/10
- Speed and convenience: 9/10
- Ease of use: 9/10
- Maintenance and hygiene: 9/10
- App and connectivity: 7.5/10
- Value at typical street price: 7.5/10
Overall: 8.1/10
The deep dive
Grinder and dosing
The Professional Aroma Grinder is Jura’s current conical set in this class. Jura cites improved geometry for more consistent grind and a measurable aroma gain over conventional designs. In practical terms it doses quickly, holds settings across back-to-back drinks, and produces fines levels that P.E.P. can manage without choking. You can feel the benefit most on short drinks where clarity improves at the same volume.
The 5–16 g dose range matters. It is enough headroom to pull a satisfying double shot from a medium roast and still have overhead for a second round. The brew unit’s compaction is repeatable, which is the whole game with super-autos. You sacrifice the joy of a perfectly dialed 1:2 shot from a prosumer machine, but you gain speed and consistency.
Extraction and beverage logic
Jura’s P.E.P. pulses water through the puck to optimize contact time. It is a clever workaround for small brew chambers, and it does prevent the hollow taste of a constant-flow shot with coarse grind. On the E6, short espresso and espresso macchiato taste best around medium-high strength with small volumes. Long drinks benefit from the Barista profiles, which adjust parameters to keep balance in a 150–200 ml cup.
Retailer documentation calls out a newer brew unit and “3D brewing,” which promotes even saturation across the puck surface. Whether you notice this in isolation is debatable. What you do notice is shot-to-shot stability, less channeling, and a predictable crema pattern. That is what a home user needs at 6 a.m.
Milk path and foam behavior
The Easy Cappuccino frother is optimized for foam volume and stability. It pulls milk through the tube, mixes with air, and dispenses foam before the espresso. The milk portion is set per drink in the menu so you can tune cup ratios. Temperature lands in the enjoyable range for cappuccino. The foam is dry compared with microfoam from a steam wand, which is why flat whites built with the E6 will look and feel like a cappuccino’s cousin rather than a silky café version.
If a tidy milk setup matters, pairing the E6 with Jura’s Cool Control keeps milk at a safe temperature and avoids dangling a carton on the counter. The Wi-Fi accessory can link the cooler and machine to nudge you when the milk is low, which is neat in practice.
Cleaning reality
The machine tells you what to do and when. With the CLEARYL Smart+ filter in place, descaling intervals extend, and the automatic filter detection simplifies swaps. Daily milk rinses take seconds, and the dedicated “clean milk system” cycle is straightforward with the mini-tabs. The entire argument for a sealed brew unit is this set-and-forget cadence. Follow it, and the E6 stays reliable.
Final verdict
The Jura E6 earns its spot in a lot of kitchens because it respects time. It starts up, rinses, pulls a good short shot, and makes a proper cappuccino without making you learn anything. The grinder is better than most in this class. The extraction system is tuned for clarity and repeatability. Cleaning is guided and certified.
The limits are clear. If you want a barista milk menu at one touch, get the E8. If you want to shape milk texture by hand, get a manual machine with a wand. If you want an everyday espresso, coffee, and cappuccino platform that keeps the counter clean and the routine painless, the E6 is a smart buy, especially at its frequent promo pricing.
TL;DR
- Fresh-ground coffee and consistent espresso with Jura’s P.E.P. system.
- Push-button cappuccino and a “milk foam portion” for manual latte builds.
- 11 drinks total, simple hard-key interface, app compatibility with a Wi-Fi accessory.
- Automated cleaning with CLEARYL Smart+ filter, TÜV-certified hygiene.
- Great if you drink black coffee and cappuccino. Not a fit if you want a full latte menu at one touch.
Pros and cons
Pros
- Consistent espresso and long coffee for a super-auto.
- Push-button cappuccino that tastes right.
- Simple, reliable interface and app support with add-on.
- Strong maintenance story with automatic filter detection and TÜV hygiene.
- Compact footprint with front-fill tank and adjustable spouts.
Cons
- No one-touch latte macchiato or flat white.
- Milk texture is fixed by the frother, not true microfoam.
- App connectivity often requires the Wi-Fi Connect accessory.
- Rinse cycles increase water use and drip-tray trips.
Who it’s for
- People who want espresso, coffee, and cappuccino every day with minimal fuss.
- Families that share a machine and need idiot-proof controls.
- Buyers who prefer a clean counter to a sprawling milk carafe.
- Deal hunters who can catch the E6 at promo pricing without stepping into E8 money.
Jura E6 - frequently asked questions
Short answers to the questions people usually ask before buying a Jura E6.
Who is the Jura E6 really designed for?
Jura E6 is built for people who drink mostly black coffee and a daily cappuccino. The drink list covers espresso, long coffee, Caffè Barista and Lungo Barista for bigger cups, plus cappuccino and a milk foam portion. If you want a fresh ground coffee platform that stays simple and you are happy building latte style drinks manually from milk foam plus espresso, E6 fits the brief. If you want a full latte menu at one touch, you step into E8 territory.
Does Jura E6 make flat white or latte macchiato at one touch?
No. E6’s milk menu is cappuccino first. You get Cappuccino, Cappuccino Extra Shot, and a Portion of milk foam. You can build a latte style drink by combining milk foam with espresso, though the foam is on the dry side instead of flat white microfoam. If you need one touch flat white and latte macchiato programs, Jura E8 is the model that adds those drinks and the more advanced milk logic.
Is the brew unit removable on the Jura E6?
No. Jura uses a sealed brew unit on the E6. You do not pull it out and rinse it in the sink. Instead, the machine relies on automatic rinses, detergent cleaning cycles, and descaling guided on screen. Paired with CLEARYL Smart+ filtration, this design is TÜV certified for hygiene when you follow the prompts and use Jura’s cleaning products. The upside is fewer user error points and stable temperature. The trade off is trusting the machine’s maintenance schedule instead of scrubbing the group yourself.
Do I need a separate accessory to use the Jura J.O.E. app with E6?
In most regions yes. The current E6 supports Wi-Fi connection, but retailers usually ship it without the Wi-Fi Connect dongle. You add Wi-Fi Connect to a special port on the machine, connect it to your home network, then pair the J.O.E. app. At that point you can trigger drinks, create favorites, and see maintenance prompts in the app. If remote control matters to you, plan on the cost of the Wi-Fi accessory alongside the machine.
How good is the espresso from Jura E6 compared to a manual machine?
E6 is a super automatic, so it trades some top end potential for consistency and speed. With the Professional Aroma Grinder and P.E.P. pulse extraction, short shots are clean, balanced, and repeatable when you use sensible volumes. You do not get the dense, syrupy texture that a well dialed 58 mm manual setup can produce with a great grinder and a careful puck prep. You do get a stable, drinkable result every morning without any of the barista ceremony. For medium and medium dark blends, that trade off is usually worth it in a kitchen.
Can I control milk temperature and texture on the Jura E6?
Milk texture on the E6 is mostly fixed by the Easy Cappuccino frother. It is tuned for dry, fine bubbled cappuccino foam, not the glossy microfoam you would stretch by hand for latte art. You can control how much milk foam a drink uses and you can influence mouthfeel by using colder milk and a higher fat content, but there is no barista style steam wand or texture slider. If manual milk control is important to you, a machine with a proper steam wand or a higher end Jura with a more advanced milk system will be a better match.
What beans work best in the Jura E6’s grinder and brew unit?
E6 is happiest with medium and medium dark espresso blends that are not oily. Oily beans can coat the chute and cause feeding issues in any super automatic. Very light roasts can be used if you keep espresso volumes short and strength high, though you will be working at the edge of what a compact brew chamber likes. A balanced medium roast will let the Professional Aroma Grinder and P.E.P. show their strengths without pushing the platform outside its comfort zone.
How often do I need to clean and descale the Jura E6?
The machine decides based on usage and whether you are using a CLEARYL Smart+ filter. Daily, you empty the grounds bin and drip tray when prompted and run the milk system rinse after your last milk drink. Periodically, the E6 will ask for a “clean” cycle using a Jura cleaning tablet and a descale cycle using Jura descaler, with timing influenced by water hardness and filter use. As long as you accept the prompts and use the recommended consumables, you do not have to track a manual schedule.
How does Jura E6 compare to Philips 5400 LatteGo or De’Longhi Dinamica Plus?
Philips 5400 LatteGo and De’Longhi Dinamica Plus both offer broader milk menus and very easy milk cleanup, especially Philips with its two piece LatteGo carafe. They also bring more latte focused recipes. Jura E6 focuses tighter on espresso, long coffee, and cappuccino, and leans into extraction quality and a strong maintenance story with CLEARYL Smart+ and a sealed brew unit. If your household lives on iced and milky drinks, Philips or De’Longhi may feel more flexible. If you want a cleaner counter, fewer visible parts, and a cappuccino first Jura experience, E6 is the smarter fit.
Is the Jura E6 worth it compared to just jumping straight to the E8?
That depends on your drink habits. If you mainly drink espresso, coffee, and cappuccino, E6 gets you Jura’s grinder, P.E.P., and cleaning system at a lower price, especially when discounted to the $1,599 to $1,799 band. If your household wants one touch flat white, latte macchiato, and a richer milk menu, the E8 earns the extra spend. The smart move is to write down what you actually drink in a week. If cappuccino and black coffee dominate, E6 is the efficient choice. If milk drinks dominate, the E8 is more future proof.
